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Post by leetargo on Jan 3, 2010 10:06:30 GMT -5
I LeeTargo will be competing in the AM tournament only. If i play in an OFFICIAL, passworded PRO round it will be as OBSERVER only. Although I am not competing, I will gladly help with SCORE CONFIRMATION POSTS if asked. Good Luck PROs LeeTargo
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Post by MellamoDEREK on Jan 3, 2010 10:28:07 GMT -5
Could I get a clarification on this please....? What indicates it's a Pro or Am round? Also. How will this work for one who is playing Pro only??
I attempted this last season. For me (only playing pro) it did not work.
Ike
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Post by putterrr on Jan 3, 2010 11:43:59 GMT -5
Ike
I would think that if you enter a password game and have not previously played that tourney then it is official. What make it Pro or Am is the game setup you use.
If you want to only play using Pro sets then that is allowed. You can accompany anyone for an official round whether they are Pro or AM. Pro and AM golfers can play at the same time as long as they use their respective game sets. If it's your first password game then it will count as Pro for you if you use Pro sets. If you already did the tourney then it will be fun.
What you can't do is enter a password game and play it as practice if you haven't completed it yet. If you are only doing Pro and want to accompany a Pro or AM golfer and haven't done that course, then just use AM game setup. That way you will be fun or observer only.
I always make sure everyone states their intension (in chat) to play official and whether it is AM or Pro. That way there can be no confusion and if there is confusion, it will be sorted out before everyone tees off and not after when it is too late.
Putterrr
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Post by putterrr on Jan 3, 2010 13:40:13 GMT -5
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I'm going to disagree with you here. There are no AM only or Pro only rounds. You can play each at the same time as the conditions are the same. Last season I participated in many rounds that had both AM and Pro golfers.
Whether someone plays with all pro players or 3 AM players, if it is their first password round then it is official.
If you want a practice round, then you must do it outside of official password games. If you use enter the password, you agree to an official round unless you have already completed that course.
I don't understand why we can't mix practice with official. We are adults and trust is the basis of this league. However that is not the case, so we go with what the rule is.
If you are playing in Am rounds and want to do an observer Pro round, then use Pro sets or it will be your official AM round. Observer is not for practicing your official playing style.
If I am wrong on this, then please enlighten me.
Putterrr
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Post by giacomo on Jan 3, 2010 14:24:48 GMT -5
Let me see if I can clear this up. It is confusing, because there are 3 separate states involved: - Style, which has to do only with your personal settings locally. AM settings include Standard Swing, AHOs, Spin, Putt Preview and Putt Meter all set to on in your local settings. PRO include Advanced swing with local settings turned off for AHOs, Spin, and Putt Preview. Advanced swing must be affirmed when an online match begins by clicking on + before teeing off on the first hole, selecting Options and re-selecting Advanced swing. Failure to do this invokes the 6 stroke penalty.
In other words, there is no such thing as a PRO match or an AM match- there is a tourney match in which players compete using the style- PRO or AM that they choose.
- Status, which has to do with whether or not you are playing an official round, a fun round or an observer round. Official rounds are determined first by the use of the official password and second by whether or not a player has already recorded official scores for the two rounds of the tourney. If two official scores have already been recorded, the player may enter the match as a Fun round and use either his official style or his observer style if he has one. If the player has declared that he is an observer for a style, the player may enter the match as an Observer using only the settings that the player is observing. Hence, if I am competing in AM and observing in PRO, and I have posted no scores for a tourney for which an official match is available, I have the choice of entering the match officially using AM settings, or entering the match as an observer using PRO settings. I may not enter the match for fun or to practice the tourney settings with my personal AM settings. If I wish to practice AM settings prior to playing officially, I will have to skip the posted match and set up a separate practice match using a practice password.
A second example: Ike has declared that he is competing as a PRO only. Therefore, Ike can enter any match during Season 5 and play with AM settings to his heart's content. But he cannot post any of the scores officially for AM- he is only observing AM. But to be clear, he is not observing AM players- he is observing AM settings. All other players in the match could be playing PRO settings, and as long as Ike uses AM, he doesn't have to report an official score. As soon as he uses PRO settings, however, he must report the official score if the official password was used and he has not yet reported two scores for that tourney.
- Type of Round, which is Official or Practice, and is determined by the password used. Chat declarations do not matter here- only the use of the password. If you use an official round password, it is an official round UNLESS one of two conditions has been satisfied: you are playing with observer settings or you have already recored two scores for the tourney being played.
As Putterrr points out, the ability to play the same course with the same course settings, with the style of play determined by each player in their settings and options means that an official match can include an AM official player, a PRO official player, a PRO observer who hasn't recorded AM scores yet, and an AM tourneys-only competitor who has posted two scores already playing either style for fun. Note also that once you play a style as an observer you may NOT compete in that style, and must file no official scores for that style. In other words, no switching back and forth! Once an observer, always an observer! Please let me know if you have further questions on this. Thanks! G.
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Post by giacomo on Jan 3, 2010 14:27:49 GMT -5
One more item to clarify- chat declarations of official rounds are important to make sure that score reporting and confirmation is done correctly- but it is only the use of the official password that makes a match official.
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Post by MellamoDEREK on Jan 3, 2010 15:58:52 GMT -5
Thank you for the clarification... that is just what I though G... So again... Like last season... I will only be playing pro sets... Any Official password game will be logged as such.. Again I am on the honor system... I will not be going out as an Observer. Only as fun to help AMs with scoring... After I have completed both official rounds... I will be doing Practice rounds... With the wiigap password... I too will be informative in chat as to my intent to go official or not... If an offical PW is used I will choose to play or not to play...
Rules are rules and I have/will stick to them...
Since I choose to only play Pro sets and not AM I can not be an Observer... Only Fun.. Like I said, I am always glad to help confirm scores... As all should be...
Good Luck all...
See you at the first tee.
Ike
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Post by stephcolbert on Jan 11, 2010 9:22:17 GMT -5
I am AM player only, observer in PRO.
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Post by FireStricker on Jan 19, 2010 23:26:10 GMT -5
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Post by twotall4u on Jan 25, 2010 18:54:47 GMT -5
I Twotall4u will play the AM only for Season 5
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