giacomo
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Post by giacomo on Sept 4, 2009 9:38:44 GMT -5
When you play a WiiGA round using the tourney password, that round is official, and the score counts. "Fun" rounds can only be shot using no password or the wiigap practice password. Players should never post rounds using the official password as "fun" UNLESS they have already posted official scores for both rounds of the same tourney. The reason for this exception is only so that players who have already completed the tourney can enable other players who haven't finished to get their rounds in.
Please adhere to this rule. If you haven't filed scores for both rounds of a tourney, you cannot decide that a round played while using the tourney password was for fun.
If there are any questions about this, please PM me or any other admin.
Thanks! G.
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Post by FireStricker on Sept 7, 2009 9:17:27 GMT -5
Hey frank and all, The password to play a wiiga game doesn't bother me it's the you have to play your am or pro official before you you can play for fun with someone playing their official. I tried all day yesterday to find someone to play my official pro game and came up empty. Everyone I asked had no problem playing for fun but didn't want to make it official. Is there a reason why you can't say fun or official before you play in the chat room or e-mail even if you haven't played your official? A little tid bit now: A fellow wiiga'r turned me on to play your official first time out because it will be your best and sure enough it usually is for me. (thanks Tiger )
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Post by neil29679 on Sept 7, 2009 10:03:26 GMT -5
i can uderstand your point Fire. i would like to add that last season i did not complete the minimun required rounds to qualify for matchplay. this was down to me playing tourney 2 as practice early on and thinking it was done official. i even played again as practice on deadline day to help another member. still under the opinion i was up to date. with the password method in place there is never any doubt as to wether it is official or not. this system has been used several times in previous seasonsand has proven to work. you will also find as we get a few weeks in it will be muck easier to find willing players. there are always 1 or 2 who are well up to date and willing to help.
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Post by psgby on Sept 8, 2009 14:35:21 GMT -5
Disconnections:
Is it permissible to just set up a replay on the back nine if you disconnect after the 9th hole instead of redoing all 18 holes?
Suggest you remind players to keep track of scores in case of disconnects. Really bad around noon CST.
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Post by giacomo on Sept 8, 2009 15:07:11 GMT -5
Good reminder! And yes, if the disconnect is after the 9th, set up the continuation on the back nine.
G.
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Post by Dude1956 on Sept 8, 2009 16:55:21 GMT -5
Hi frank,
I foresee a couple of problems with this.
One is that it may make it more difficult for players to get their games in when they are available.
Secondly, I for one really enjoy games with 3 - 4 players. I have always found them to be more exciting at times and you can't beat watching 4 streaks zeroing in on the pin all at once.
It has always been the responsibility of all players to keep track of their scores because of the possibility of a DC. If you had an extra player along to just keep score and they got the DC, you would still face the same problem.
It is always good to have at least 2 players keeping track in all official rds for backup whenever possible in my opinion.
Dude
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Post by psgby on Sept 8, 2009 19:38:56 GMT -5
In the heat of the game keeping scores for 4 is adding stress to the one or one's keeping score for all . I did this for awhile but was losing focus and feeling rushed so I stopped keeping score on other players. For 2 players it's not as bad.
If I might offer a suggestion for those that are having a problem keeping scores on 4 player matches:
Designate the 1st 2 players (host and 1st to sign in) keep both their scores for confirmation and the last 2 players to sign on keep both their scores. They can confirm all scores in the chat room after the match. Each player then is only keeping 2 scores.
For 2 and 3 players each player keep the match totals after each hole for all players. Hole scores can be filled in at the end of the match if you don't get disconnected and you feel it's necessary.
There is usually time to record the scores before the tee off comes up if you have everything prepared and close at hand. I hope I'm not out of place by offering these suggestions.
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Post by giacomo on Sept 8, 2009 20:11:17 GMT -5
I don't think there's been a specific rule covering the scorekeeping other than that each player is responsible for having the hole-be-hole score in case of a dconn. Generally, in matches that I've played in past seasons, that's been interpreted as each player keeps his/her own score. This simplifies the scoring process for each individual and places the responsibility on each player. The reason scorecards are provided for all tourneys is to ensure that every player has easy access to hole-by-hole scoring. If you can keep the score of other players, all the better; but I think holding each player responsible removes the burden for tracking multiple scores.
G.
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Post by mph on Dec 10, 2009 23:57:50 GMT -5
I have a question about rule 14, the glitches rule. Tonight during a pick-up game at Bethpage, on the 9th hole I pitched one into the hole. It gave me an 'Out of bounds' and added a stroke to my score. Ended up with par for the hole instead of birdie which is what I actually shot. Can we have predetermined rulings on some of the glitches, such as the one I just discribed, that we know are in the game?
14. In the event of a glitch during online play in which “glitch” is defined as an improbable or outrageous event that could only be viewed as an unresolved bug, it will be decided by the administrators of this league whether or not official game scores will be adjusted or official games will be disqualified and replayed, or if the original scores should stand. Examples include, but are not limited to drives being interrupted by birds, balls hovering 5 inches in midair, or bouncing from tree limb to tree limb without ever falling to the ground. All admin decisions are final.
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Post by giacomo on Dec 11, 2009 0:20:57 GMT -5
Hi, mph. This one has been ruled upon by the admins previously in TW09. At the time I wasn't an admin, and was, in fact, the one who appealed. The ruling was unanimous that the score generated by the glitch was the score I had to accept. So, I would say that we need to stay with that ruling; but if you would like to have the admins re-rule on it, we could certainly look at it again.
G.
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Post by TheJokker on Dec 11, 2009 0:32:45 GMT -5
hey mph,
The way I see it, most of the time when an OB glitch happens it is obvious to your opponent. If your opponent agrees it was a glitch then there is no need to ask admin about it. Just shave off a stroke and post the real score. If for some reason there is a conflict regarding the glitch, then it should be discussed with admin to decide a fair way to handle it.
During 2 of my matches in the GAT tourney, the same OB glitch happened to my opponents. I told them I saw the glitch, which I did see it, then I shaved off a stroke for them on they're score. I did however mention the glitch in my posting of the scores for the match. If you look in the Global Annilation tourney for the US West, you'll see how I handled it.
When you see your opponent shoot a bird for example, and the score shows par, ask them after the match to make sure it was the glitch it appeared to be. Some players (myself included) may not mention the glitch they get and just accept the score so there is no conflict. I won't mention my glitches unless my opponent saw it and mentions it. So if you see one that hits your opponent, mention it to them and adjust the score if it truely was.
We have very good people in our League and our honor system seems to work very well so far regarding issues that may not be able to prove. For example . . . Pro Settings . . . They can be cheated but our members are very respectful to other players and seem to conform to the settings.
All of what I have just said is just my oppinions, but I feel the other admins will agree with how this should be handled. We are not in every match so we trust that some of these issues are easily solved by the players in the match.
TheJokker
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Post by TheJokker on Dec 11, 2009 10:54:31 GMT -5
Well, as hard as it is for me to admit I'm wrong, sometimes I am ;D I should have double-checked the rule on this before I spoke out in ignorance.
I appologize to our admins for my previous posting, my bad. I also appologize to our members for not making sure I understood the rules before I spoke out.
I will however discuss this issue with the other admins to see if we should consider exceptions to the rule. For Example . . . If all players in a match see the glitch, then can it be fixed . . . I hate to win a match due to a glitch on my opponent. I do watch all other players in my matches and I will usually recognize a glitch for any of them if it happens. If the glitch does not change the outcome of a match then it is not a game-deciding glitch, probably not worth the trouble. As we all know, this is a touchy subject and does need careful consideration.
My Bad, TheJokker
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Post by mph on Dec 11, 2009 13:17:36 GMT -5
Thank you for clearing that up. If it happens to me in an official game, I'll just say a naughty word (more likely a string of twenty of them that would make a guy who's been in prison for thirty eight years blush) and chalk it up to bad luck.
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Post by kenw on Dec 11, 2009 14:05:50 GMT -5
Hey Jokker. I too like to watch the other players in the match. As you and many others know, I play very fast and am usually the 1st one in the hole ( except PRO as I struggle there). Being the first one in, gives me ample time to watch the others. An advantage to being the 1st one in, is that I don't have to worry about getting hit with the other balls flying around. LOL -ken
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